Legislature(2019 - 2020)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/21/2019 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:04:02 AM Port of Anchorage: Importance, Status Update, and Challenges
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      March 21, 2019                                                                                            
                         9:02 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:02:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:02 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Mike Shower                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
William  D.  Falsey,   Municipal  Manager,  Municipality  of                                                                    
Anchorage; Steve Ribuffo, Director,  Port of Alaska; Senator                                                                    
Cathy Giessel; Senator Shelley Hughes; Senator Jesse Kiehl.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PORT   OF  ANCHORAGE:   IMPORTANCE,   STATUS  UPDATE,   and                                                                  
CHALLENGES                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:04:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM  D.  FALSEY,   MUNICIPAL  MANAGER,  MUNICIPALITY  OF                                                                    
ANCHORAGE,  discussed  the  presentation,  "Port  of  Alaska                                                                    
Modernization Program History and Status" (copy on file).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:04:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey highlighted Slide 2, "Why Care about the Port?"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  looked at Slide  3, "Critical:  Alaska's premier                                                                    
inbound cargo port":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ? Half of state's inbound, marine freight                                                                                  
     ? Half of Port freight delivered outside of Anchorage                                                                      
     ? DOD-designated National Strategic Defense Port                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:05:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey addressed Slide 4, "Old: Time is running out":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
       Half-century old docks are failing due to corrosion                                                                      
       Docks will start closing in about 10 years                                                                               
     regardless of seismic activity or anything else                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:05:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey discussed Slide 5, "Short of Funds":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ? First replacement facility is 100 percent designed:                                                                      
     Petroleum /Cement Terminal                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Total funding is not enough to complete shovel-ready                                                                       
     construction                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:05:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey highlighted  Slide 6,  "In the  beginning (pre-                                                                     
Port Expansion")."  The slide showed a  2004 photograph that                                                                    
reflected  two large  areas of  mud  on either  side of  the                                                                    
cargo terminals. He said that it  was known in 2004 that due                                                                    
to  the  mud  on  either  side of  the  terminals  that  the                                                                    
facility would eventually need to be replaced.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:06:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  addressed  Slide  7,  "The  Port  of  Anchorage                                                                    
Intermodal Expansion  Project (PIEP)  Vision." He  said that                                                                    
the  grand vision  on the  new land  would have  allowed for                                                                    
various updated facilities and terminals.  He said that open                                                                    
cell  sheet  piles  would  have   been  used  over  standard                                                                    
construction techniques.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:07:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey looked at Slide 8, "Not standard "piles"."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  highlighted  Slide  9,  "1976  construction  of                                                                    
Terminal 3."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  looked  at  Slide 10,  "Open  Cell  Sheet  Pile                                                                    
Construction."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:07:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  turned to  slide  11,  "The Port  of  Anchorage                                                                    
Intermodal  Expansion  Project (PIEP)  Construction,"  which                                                                    
showed how  the mud  would be converted  into new  land: The                                                                    
Barge  Births   and  Northern   Extension,  and   the  South                                                                    
Backlands. He  relayed that this  project ended  in calamity                                                                    
due to sheet pile failure.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:07:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey highlighted  Slide 13,  "The  Port of  Anchorage                                                                    
when  PIEP was  Stopped." He  stated that  when the  project                                                                    
stopped in  2012, the state  had successfully  converted the                                                                    
old mud  into the  seismically unstable South  Backlands and                                                                    
Northern  Extension   and  had   not  reached  any   of  the                                                                    
facilities that needed to be replaced.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:07:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  discussed Slide 14,  "Vision After  2013 Concept                                                                    
Design Study."  The intent had  been to salvage some  of the                                                                    
work  that had  already been  done by  building a  new cargo                                                                    
terminal at the North Extension.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:08:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey addressed  slide  15,  "2013 CH2MHill  Concludes                                                                    
Design Not  Suitable." He  turned to  Slide 16,  "Dry Barge,                                                                    
Wet  Barge, NE  1, NE  2." Slide  16 showed  several designs                                                                    
that were  generated to  salvage some of  the work  that had                                                                    
already  been done.  Professional geoengineers  had reviewed                                                                    
the revision to determine seismic stability.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:08:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey addressed  Slide 17,  " 2013  CH2MHill Concludes                                                                    
Design Not Suitable":                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ? Dry barge berth can be used                                                                                              
     ? Wet barge berth has "major defects" and its "factor                                                                      
     of safety" for "static global stability" is inadequate                                                                     
     ? North Extension 1 has  "even lower [factor of safety]                                                                    
     for static global stability"                                                                                               
     ? North Extension 2 has "most dramatic construction                                                                        
     defects" and is globally unstable                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey discussed Slide 18,  "Dry Barge, Wet Barge, NE 1,                                                                    
NE  2."  He lamented  that  the  facility  had not  only  be                                                                    
improperly constructed  but was  also dangerous.  He relayed                                                                    
that the  Dry Barge  could be salvaged,  but that  the other                                                                    
three would need to be removed.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:09:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey highlighted  Slide 19,  "Anchorage Daily  News."                                                                    
The slide  contained a  picture from  the November  30, 2018                                                                    
Anchorage earthquake.  He noted that  the land in  the photo                                                                    
was the same  land that was under the Dry  Barge area, which                                                                    
offered cause for concern.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:09:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey looked  at Slides  20  and 21,  "Dry Barge,  Wet                                                                    
Barge, NE 1, NE 2."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:09:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  highlighted  Slide  22,  "Modernization  -  Not                                                                    
Expansion, Just  Replace what  we have."  He said  that this                                                                    
concept moved  away from  any delusions  of grandeur  to the                                                                    
idea of modernizing the port as it exists.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:10:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  addressed Slide 23, "2014  Charrette Stakeholder                                                                    
Representation":                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ? Municipality of Anchorage (MOA)                                                                                          
          Geotechnical Advisory Commission (GAC)                                                                                
       Port of Alaska (POA)                                                                                                     
       Totem Ocean Trailer Express (TOTE)                                                                                       
       Horizon Lines (Now Matson)                                                                                               
       ABI Cement                                                                                                               
       Southwest Alaska Pilots Association                                                                                      
       Cook Inlet Tug and Barge                                                                                                 
       US Army Corps of Engineers Alaska District (USACE)                                                                       
       Alaska Railroad Corporation (ARRC)                                                                                       
       CH2M HILL/HDR Program Team                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:10:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey looked at  Slide 24, "ModernizationNOT  Expansion                                                                    
(Just  replace what  we have)."  He stressed  that the  2014                                                                    
concept set  the project on  the path that it  was currently                                                                    
on, with  a new significant  cost to modernize  the facility                                                                    
by attending to the leftover  problem created by the old and                                                                    
failed  federal project.  He added  that replacement  of the                                                                    
cargo terminals,  while keeping them in  operation, would be                                                                    
a challenge.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:11:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof  looked at Slide 17.  She understood that                                                                    
the Dry barge berth could be  used, but the other areas were                                                                    
unstable. She  asked what  would be  done with  the unusable                                                                    
areas   under   the   2014    concept   design   study   for                                                                    
modernization.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:12:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  replied that  parts that  could not  be repaired                                                                    
would be removed and paired  back to be structurally stable.                                                                    
Those areas would not be used for new facilities.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:13:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman queried possible  future demolition and the                                                                    
accompanying cost.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:13:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey looked  at Slide  25,  "Post-2015 Direction  and                                                                    
Changes":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ? Begin with design and $128 million                                                                                       
     ? Prioritize construction of useful facilities                                                                             
     deferring   second    portion   of    North   Extension                                                                    
     Stabilization                                                                                                              
     ? Advance Design                                                                                                           
     ? Secure Funding                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey said that the priority would be the construction                                                                     
of useful facilities and the stabilization portion of the                                                                       
Norther Extension would be deferred. He noted that there                                                                        
was not yet funding for the program. He shared that the                                                                         
start would be to carve off the "nose" of the Northern                                                                          
Extension and then the rest would be removed over time. He                                                                      
said that the core mission was to advance the design of the                                                                     
useful facilitates. The first of those facilities was the                                                                       
Petroleum Cement Terminal, which had to be moved south in                                                                       
order to make room for all the cargo construction. He                                                                           
stressed that the project was not one big project but,                                                                          
rather, a series of small projects - the only portion of                                                                        
which was ready now was the Petroleum Cement Terminal. He                                                                       
said that the city had inherited the problem and now had to                                                                     
determine where the money would come from for the necessary                                                                     
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:15:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman addressed the history  of the project as it                                                                    
had been  discussed in committee. He  expressed concern that                                                                    
money was  being wasted on demolishing  structures the state                                                                    
had made previous appropriations to build.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:16:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  agreed that there  was a  significant demolition                                                                    
cost. He  related that  now, each phase  of the  project was                                                                    
expected  to pay  for itself.  He said  that the  demolition                                                                    
cost would  be approximately $250 million  and would largely                                                                    
be recouped  in federal  dollars. He admitted  that expenses                                                                    
for  demolitions  had  a  tangential  relationship  to  past                                                                    
appropriations - but requests for  new money to fix problems                                                                    
created by  past appropriations  would not be  submitted. He                                                                    
stressed  that the  problems at  the port  were largely  the                                                                    
fault of the  federal government and sights were  set on the                                                                    
Untied State Maritime Administration for recompense.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:17:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  about  past  appropriations to  the                                                                    
project:  $10 million  in  2007, $15  million  in 2009,  $30                                                                    
million in 2010,  $30 million in 2012. He  asked whether any                                                                    
of those appropriations were targeted for demolition.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:18:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  responded that  some of the  funds was  used for                                                                    
design and  was not  a significant  fraction of  the overall                                                                    
expense. He insisted  that the priority had been  to use the                                                                    
appropriations  for  functional   facilities.  None  of  the                                                                    
remaining $128  million had  been slated  to go  towards the                                                                    
demolition of the Northern Extension.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:18:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  requested   documentation  of  how  state                                                                    
dollars had been spent for the project since 2006.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:18:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey agreed to provide the information.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:20:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof looked  at Slide 5.  She noted  that the                                                                    
project was sort  on fund by $110 million.  She wondered who                                                                    
had done the cost base analysis  for the slide, and how much                                                                    
federal funding was expected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:21:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey asked Co-Chair von Imhof to repeat the question.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:21:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof pointed to  the upper right corner of the                                                                    
slide  that listed  current funding  sources and  the total.                                                                    
She  understood  that  the  total  funding  amount  for  the                                                                    
project  was $157,796,015  - plus  the figure  in the  lower                                                                    
right-hand corner of $110,693,123.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  responded that  the numbers  in the  upper right                                                                    
corner  were  the different  funding  sources  for the  $157                                                                    
million  and the  chart  below that  reflected  the cost  of                                                                    
completing the  Petroleum Cement Terminal. He  said that the                                                                    
chart was  showing that there  would not be enough  money to                                                                    
complete what had already been designed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:22:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von Imhof  asked  whether work  had  begun on  the                                                                    
Petroleum Cement Terminal phase of the project.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:22:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  replied  in  the   affirmative.  He  said  that                                                                    
transitional dredging  had been done to  change the undersea                                                                    
surface,  stabilization  of  the South  Backlands  had  been                                                                    
done,  and a  south  floating dock  had  been relocated.  He                                                                    
added  that all  necessary  permitting and  design work  had                                                                    
been completed.  He said that  the port  was on the  cusp of                                                                    
starting the actual  construction work and had  the funds to                                                                    
build the  trestle out  to the future  platform, but  not to                                                                    
build the platform itself.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:23:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof asked whether assurances  had been given                                                                    
that federal dollars  would be made available  to finish the                                                                    
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey said  that there  was not  guarantee of  federal                                                                    
dollars  to finish  the Petroleum  Cement Terminal.  He said                                                                    
that if each portion of the  project was supposed to pay for                                                                    
itself  it  was expected  that  the  federal money  received                                                                    
through litigation  would be used  to clean up  the Northern                                                                    
Extension. It  was not  expected that  there would  be funds                                                                    
left over  to build the  Petroleum Cement Terminal.  He said                                                                    
that there were  no assurances that federal  grants would be                                                                    
received.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:24:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof  spoke to a February 18,  2019 article in                                                                    
the Anchorage Daily News that  discussed the port's hopes to                                                                    
have tariffs on cement and  fuel. She asked whether the port                                                                    
commission,  or  the  Anchorage Assembly,  had  conducted  a                                                                    
study on how the tariff would impact potential users.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey said  that the  process was  in its  infancy. He                                                                    
said that the  tariffs had to be changed in  order to ensure                                                                    
a future  for the port. He  warned that if tariffs  were the                                                                    
only  revenue generator  for the  port it  would affect  all                                                                    
users on the docks.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:26:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop appreciated the tariff conversation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:27:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson expressed concern  that users would just move                                                                    
to different ports  if the Port of  Anchorage tariffs became                                                                    
too prohibitive.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  said that he  would provide  further information                                                                    
on the  tariffs. He noted that  use of other ports  would be                                                                    
logistically unattractive to users.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:28:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman queried the ownership of the port.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  replied   that  the  port  was   owned  by  the                                                                    
Municipality of Anchorage.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:29:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche noted  that he  was the  president of  the                                                                    
management  team  of the  Coast  Guard's  Cook Inlet  Harbor                                                                    
Safety Committee.  He mentioned that port  director was also                                                                    
a member.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:29:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked whether  there were ways  other than                                                                    
roads to get materials to the Railbelt.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:29:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey replied  that trains could be an  option. He said                                                                    
that trains  were not an  attractive alternative  because of                                                                    
the  additional cost,  congestion on  highways, and  transit                                                                    
times.  He  a  cost  benefit analysis  was  currently  being                                                                    
updated. He said  that implementation of a  tariff would not                                                                    
move significant volumes away from the port.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:30:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked how the committee  could analyze how                                                                    
much  the  facility would  cost  when  the target  cost  was                                                                    
constantly moving.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:31:05 AM                                                                                                                    
Mr. Falsey responded that the  plan consisted of a series of                                                                    
projects and that $2 billion was  the number being used as a                                                                    
result of  the information  at hand. He  said that  he hoped                                                                    
that the cost would be  less overall. He reiterated that the                                                                    
only portion  of the project  that was shovel ready  was the                                                                    
Petroleum Cement Terminal, which  was at 100 percent design,                                                                    
the other portions were at 30 percent design level.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:31:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von Imhof  spoke to  the  economic analysis  being                                                                    
done on  a potential  tariff. She  wondered whether,  if the                                                                    
economic analysis proved that  cargo would bypass Anchorage,                                                                    
there was a threshold for the tariff.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  responded  that  if  the  unmet  need  for  the                                                                    
terminal  was $200  million,  assuming  current volumes,  it                                                                    
begged the  question of what  kind of debt  service coverage                                                                    
ratio would  be necessary  to borrow  $200 million.  He said                                                                    
that the  assumed demand was  critical; if  other facilities                                                                    
were going to  be used the port would be  forced to consider                                                                    
raising  the tariff.  He  hoped that  users  would help  the                                                                    
municipality to  understand the level  of elasticity  in the                                                                    
tariff level but  that the municipality had  no other option                                                                    
but to  generate revenues  off the  facility enough  to meet                                                                    
the debt service needs.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:33:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof noted that  there were some  states that                                                                    
had  a statewide  focused sales  tax for  specific projects,                                                                    
which  had  worked  to  various   degrees  of  success.  She                                                                    
remarked  that  there  was discussion  of  a  public/private                                                                    
partnership. She  noted that  the tariff  idea, was  not the                                                                    
only  idea.  Rather,  there were  different  port  ownership                                                                    
structures  that  had  worked successfully.  She  asked  Mr.                                                                    
Falsey to comment the issue.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey stated  that  the port  had  been approached  by                                                                    
Macquarie  Infrastructure  Corporation.  He  said  that  the                                                                    
municipality  had proactively  approached all  users to  ask                                                                    
whether   they   were   interested   in   a   public/private                                                                    
partnership. He said that no  hard offers had been received.                                                                    
He stressed  that he was  open to any alternative  that kept                                                                    
the port  in operation into  the future. He stated  that the                                                                    
public/private  partnership had  many  advantages but  would                                                                    
not  change  the  underlying  economics.   He  said  that  a                                                                    
public/private  partnership could  result  in  a tariff  and                                                                    
even a tollbooth.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:36:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  asked about the  design construction  on the                                                                    
shovel-ready project from the piling standpoint.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey stated  that the design was  for plain platforms,                                                                    
supported by cylindrical piles.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:37:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson   agreed  with  Co-Chair  von   Imhof  about                                                                    
different ways of  funding. He lamented the  large amount of                                                                    
money  that  had  already  been spent  on  the  project.  He                                                                    
suggested  that  if  the municipality  could  not  fund  the                                                                    
project it could move to a port authority model.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:38:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  reiterated that he  was open to all  options. He                                                                    
stressed  that  the  municipality   was  not  asking  for  $                                                                    
billion,  only   $200  million  for  the   Petroleum  Cement                                                                    
Terminal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:39:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  interjected that the whole  port was under                                                                    
discussion and not only the one terminal.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:39:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson aske how projections  were being made without                                                                    
an economic analysis.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey stated  that  what had  been  projected was  the                                                                    
amount of revenue  that would need to be taken  off the cost                                                                    
of the terminal  to cover the amount of money  that would be                                                                    
necessary to finish building the  terminal. He repeated that                                                                    
he was open to finding a solution other than a tariff.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:41:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  felt  that the  presenters  were  sitting                                                                    
before the committee prematurely.  He was concerned that the                                                                    
municipality had not  reached out to the user  groups of the                                                                    
port  facility in  a way  that demonstrated  that users  had                                                                    
been adequately involved in the process.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:43:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  admitted that there  was no plan for  an overall                                                                    
rebuild  the port.  He insisted  that  the municipality  was                                                                    
actively reaching  out to users and  important conversations                                                                    
were  occurring.  He  believed  that  this  portion  of  the                                                                    
project was ready to implement.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:45:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von   Imhof  shared  that  she   had  invited  the                                                                    
presenters because the port served  the entire state and was                                                                    
an  important  piece  of   infrastructure.  She  hoped  that                                                                    
potential  solutions could  be reached.  She hoped  that the                                                                    
municipality  did not  believe that  a tariff  was the  only                                                                    
option.  She  urged  the presenters  to  keep  investigating                                                                    
other potential options for keeping  the port operating. She                                                                    
warned  against attempting  any  construction without  first                                                                    
securing funding.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:48:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  felt that the  conversation was in  danger of                                                                    
becoming  tense.  He  called  for  civility  throughout  the                                                                    
remainder of the presentation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:49:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  acknowledged   the  strong  differing  of                                                                    
opinions  at  the  table.  He  said  that  talking  about  a                                                                    
statewide  sales tax  to generate  revenue for  a particular                                                                    
port  would  be  met  with  differing  opinions.  He  warned                                                                    
against   underestimating   the    indigestion   caused   by                                                                    
appropriating  hundreds   of  millions  of  dollars   for  a                                                                    
shortsighted  project, only  to have  the municipality  come                                                                    
back and ask for more partial funding.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:51:17 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:52:16 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey stated that he  appreciated the direct questions.                                                                    
He stressed  that the  facility was  critical to  the entire                                                                    
state  and that  the  appropriations made  to-date had  been                                                                    
used on  the necessary  permitting and  testing work  to get                                                                    
projects done.  He turned to Slide  26, "The Path We  Are On                                                                    
Now," which  showed an  aerial image  of the  Anchorage Port                                                                    
Modernization  Program. He  said that  the first  thing that                                                                    
needed to be done was  to move the Petroleum Cement Terminal                                                                    
to  the  and  the  south floating  dock  further  south.  He                                                                    
discussed the  plan to move  the terminal. Slides 27  and 28                                                                    
showed  the project  as it  would evolve  over the  next two                                                                    
seasons.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:54:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  highlighted  Slide 27,  "Two  Seasons:  PCT2020                                                                    
Construction Scope":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Access trestle up to top of deck, no piping or                                                                             
     utilities                                                                                                                  
     Platform piles                                                                                                             
     Temporary bracing of platform piles                                                                                        
     Temporary impressed current cathodic protection                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Falsey  addressed   slide  28,   "Season  2:   PCT2021                                                                    
Construction Scope":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Complete platform                                                                                                          
     Mooring and breasting dolphins                                                                                             
     Petroleum piping and utilities                                                                                             
     Hose tower and control building                                                                                            
     Impressed current cathodic protection                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey highlighted slide 29, "Short of Funds":                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     First replacement facility is 100 percent designed:                                                                        
     Petroleum/Cement Terminal                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Total funding is not enough to complete shovel-ready                                                                       
     construction                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:54:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman interjected  that  the  committee had  two                                                                    
choice  for  funding  any   Capital  project:  reducing  the                                                                    
permanent  fund dividend  payout or  using already  depleted                                                                    
savings.  He stated  that there  was no  reoccurring revenue                                                                    
for  Capital projects;  all  reoccurring  revenue was  being                                                                    
used for the Operating Budget.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:55:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  appreciated  the  conundrum.  He  thought  that                                                                    
further  conversations  should  be  about the  best  way  to                                                                    
mitigate the cost of the port being shifted to Alaskans.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:55:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  addressed  Slide 30,  "2016  State  Legislative                                                                    
Program."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Falsey  highlighted   Slide   31,  "Priority   Capital                                                                    
Request."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:56:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof looked  at Slide  26. She  asked whether                                                                    
user groups needed all the  capacity shown on the slide. She                                                                    
wondered  whether it  would be  better to  use one  terminal                                                                    
more efficiently.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:57:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  replied that  the users  liked the  design built                                                                    
did not  want to pay for  it. He believed that  if users had                                                                    
to pay for  it the design could  be significantly downsized.                                                                    
He said  that conversations  on which  parts of  the project                                                                    
were critical would be occurring.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:59:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von Imhof  hoped that  further discussions  moving                                                                    
forward  should involve  a public/private  collaboration for                                                                    
financing and ownership of the project.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:00:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche though  that  a  more comprehensive  plan,                                                                    
using  all  the  available   alternative  ports,  should  be                                                                    
considered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:02:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  addressed  Slide  32,  "Designated  Legislative                                                                    
Grant Program."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:02:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey looked  at Slide 33. He shared that  the port had                                                                    
applied  for  two  federal  grants   and  would  pursue  all                                                                    
possible federal funding.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Falsey    highlighted   Slide    34,   "Public/Private                                                                    
Partnership?:  RFP." The  slide listed  information for  the                                                                    
bidding process.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:02:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Falsey   addressed   Slide   35,   "Port   of   Alaska                                                                    
Modernization Program Financial Advisory Services."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:03:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Falsey    highlighted   Slide    36,   "Public-Private                                                                    
Partnerships."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      Use if one or more P3's, likely combined with some                                                                     
        public sector capital, is an alternative financing                                                                      
        strategy to consider depending on the MOA's risk                                                                        
        preferences and priorities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      Unless "guarantees" can be secured to support use of                                                                   
        public finance;  pursuing  a  P3  Strategy  may  not                                                                    
        necessarily impact the timeline of the  PAMP or cost                                                                    
        end users any more than using  revenue bonds to fund                                                                    
        one or more phases of the program.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:03:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  discussed  slide  37.   The  slide  showed  the                                                                    
different  users of  the port.  He  said that  conversations                                                                    
with  users  on how  to  fund  the  port projects  had  been                                                                    
comprehensive.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey highlighted slide 38, "Tariff Update."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:03:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  looked at  slide 39,  "Goals For  Setting Tariff                                                                    
Rates for Port":                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Rates set to achieve revenue requirement, meaning                                                                          
     1. meet its  debt service coverage ratio of  1.3 or the                                                                    
     ratio set by lender.                                                                                                       
     2. meet  its fiscal  policy for operating  reserves set                                                                    
     at a minimum  of 60 and maximum of 90  days coverage of                                                                    
     operating expenses following GFOA best practices.                                                                          
     3. meet its fiscal policy  for capital reserves set a 2                                                                    
     percent of plant in service  for coverage of unexpected                                                                    
     events  (earthquake, fire  or  catastrophic failure  of                                                                    
     facilities).                                                                                                               
     4.  meet  is  fiscal  policy  for  debt  reserves  when                                                                    
     revenue  bonds  are  issued  for  capital  improvements                                                                    
     consistent with bond covenants.                                                                                            
     5. each project pays for itself.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:04:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requesting further information on the                                                                          
tariff structure and impact.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey showed Slide 39, "Goal For Setting Tariff Rates                                                                      
for Port":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    Rates set to achieve revenue requirement, meaning?                                                                        
     1. meet its  debt service coverage ratio of  1.3 or the                                                                    
     ratio set by lender.                                                                                                       
     2. meet  its fiscal  policy for operating  reserves set                                                                    
     at a minimum  of 60 and maximum of 90  days coverage of                                                                    
     operating expenses following GFOA best practices.                                                                          
     3. meet  its fiscal policy  for capital reserves  set a                                                                    
     2%  of  plant in  service  for  coverage of  unexpected                                                                    
     events  (earthquake, fire  or  catastrophic failure  of                                                                    
     facilities).                                                                                                               
     4.  meet  is  fiscal  policy  for  debt  reserves  when                                                                    
     revenue  bonds  are  issued  for  capital  improvements                                                                    
     consistent with bond covenants.                                                                                            
     5. each project pays for itself.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:05:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  interjected  that  if a  member  asked  a                                                                    
question  that was  better answered  on the  previous slide,                                                                    
the committee  could hold questions  so the  presenter could                                                                    
stay in sequence.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:06:00 AM                                                                                                                   
Mr. Falsey  highlighted Slide  40, "The  'All in'  PCT Price                                                                    
Tag  95 percent  Design."  The slide  contained the  revised                                                                    
cost  estimate   for  the   Petroleum  Cement   Terminal  of                                                                    
$223,117,951; minus  pro-rate portion of prior  cash on hand                                                                    
and  state   grants  of  $20,895,331   -  resulting   in  an                                                                    
outstanding need of $200 million.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:06:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  addressed slide  41, "Municipality  of Anchorage                                                                    
Port  of Alaska."  The slide  contained the  Port of  Alaska                                                                    
tariff  rate  projections  based   on  Parish  Blessing  and                                                                    
Associates  analysis  on  borrowing   of  $200  million.  He                                                                    
discussed the  increase on the petroleum  and cement tariffs                                                                    
over the next 6 years.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  discussed  slide  42,  "Anchorage  Daily  News:                                                                    
Study, Much higher  import fees needed to  pay for Anchorage                                                                    
port work."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:07:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof understood that  cement and fuel were two                                                                    
very different  commodities. She  thought that $.03  or $.04                                                                    
cents could make  a big difference in the  per gallon price.                                                                    
She asked  whether the port  had explored  different federal                                                                    
programs that  specifically target  ports and  railways. She                                                                    
wondered whether  the program could qualify  for funds under                                                                    
the federal Community Reinvestment Act.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:09:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey replied  that the  he would  provide information                                                                    
about the federal  monies that the port had  applied for and                                                                    
get back to the committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:09:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson  asked  whether the  state's  credit  rating                                                                    
affected any of the projections.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:09:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey did not believe so.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:10:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  queried the  number  of  years expected  to                                                                    
phase in the proposed tariff increases.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey said 6 years.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:12:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Shower asked  about military  use of  the port  and                                                                    
whether  options for  funding sources  through the  military                                                                    
had been explored.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:12:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey replied  in the  affirmative. He  felt that  the                                                                    
federal delegation was  aware of the importance  of the port                                                                    
as a  national strategic defense  seaport. He said  that the                                                                    
Department of  Defense did not  have a program  that offered                                                                    
financial  support to  fund the  critical infrastructure  of                                                                    
the port.  He felt that  if the port  was to incur  the $300                                                                    
million in  additional cost to support  the official seaport                                                                    
designation  the federal  government should  play a  role in                                                                    
funding the facility.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:14:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  aske who  had  the  authority to  set  the                                                                    
tariff timeline of 6 years.  He wondered about the impact of                                                                    
the tariff on the international airport cargo system.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:14:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  replied that  the  Anchorage  Assembly had  the                                                                    
authority  to set  the tariff.  He described  the assembly's                                                                    
process. He asserted  that Alaska would pay  for the project                                                                    
somehow, someway;  the hope was  to find the  least damaging                                                                    
way to fund the project.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:16:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  wondered whether  there was  a way  to get                                                                    
contractual  commitments from  the private  sector. He  felt                                                                    
that   private  industry   was   continually  seeking   more                                                                    
efficient ways to do business.                                                                                                  
10:17:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  replied that a  preferential user  agreement had                                                                    
been discussed that  would guarantee a volume  of use, which                                                                    
was in  place for  cargo. He stated  that such  an agreement                                                                    
was  not  yet  in  place  for  cement  and  fuel  users.  He                                                                    
suspected  that  no one  would  be  ready  to sign  such  an                                                                    
agreement at the tariff rates previously published.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:19:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  about   the  enterprise  fund.  He                                                                    
queried  why  the municipality  did  not  have a  sustaining                                                                    
structure in an enterprise fund for the port.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:19:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  responded that  there were  2 enterprises  and 3                                                                    
utilities  in  the  municipality.  He said  that  the  self-                                                                    
sustaining enterprise  fund spun off $10  million in revenue                                                                    
per  year and  paid  a small  dividend  to the  municipality                                                                    
yearly. He  lamented that what  the fund had never  done was                                                                    
collect enough  money to  rebuild the  port once  it reached                                                                    
the  end of  its  useful life.  He felt  that  the port  had                                                                    
likely been  predicated on  the notion  that federal  or oil                                                                    
dollars would fill the financial void.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  probed  the  tariff  changes  against  an                                                                    
artificially   low  base   rate.  He   requested  a   tariff                                                                    
comparison  of  the  municipalities number  and  what  other                                                                    
Alaskan's were  paying in shipping tariffs.  He thought that                                                                    
the  disparity in  energy costs  throughout the  state would                                                                    
inform the comparison.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:22:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey agreed  to provide  the  information. He  shared                                                                    
that  Anchorage  was  beginning to  investigate  significant                                                                    
tariff adjustments because it was  being forced to raise the                                                                    
funds to  rebuild the  port. He suspected  that none  of the                                                                    
other facilities in the state were facing the same issue.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:23:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought that more investigation  should be                                                                    
done into the comparison.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:23:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof asked about the  realistic timeframe for                                                                    
a  workable  plan based  on  state  holder engagement,  port                                                                    
ownership and management, and a  realistic financial plan of                                                                    
the different funding sources.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:24:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  replied  that  information  for  the  Petroleum                                                                    
Cement Terminal could be available  in 2019. He felt that by                                                                    
summer  2019,   the  port  commission  process   would  have                                                                    
advanced and the  financial plan for that  terminal would be                                                                    
finalized. The plan  for the remainder of  the facilities at                                                                    
the  port   remained  under  discussion.  He   thought  that                                                                    
cleaving  the projects  into its  various  components was  a                                                                    
smart way to move forward.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:25:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson understood  that the port had  no request for                                                                    
funds for FY 20.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:25:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  replied no. He said  that in FY 19  the port had                                                                    
received $20  million in  grants and  had expected  the same                                                                    
funding  in FY  20.  He  stated that  because  the port  had                                                                    
enough  money   to  build  half  of   the  Petroleum  Cement                                                                    
Terminal,  it  was  looking for  assistance  to  finish  the                                                                    
remainder of the facility.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:26:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  asked whether  the  city  had considered  a                                                                    
time-limited sales tax.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:26:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  replied no. He said  that such a tax  would be a                                                                    
mismatch in burden;  85 percent of the  state benefited from                                                                    
the  port, half  of the  cargo received  left Anchorage  and                                                                    
went to other areas of the state.  If a local tax were to be                                                                    
imposed, the residents for the  municipality would be paying                                                                    
for a new port that benefitted the entire state.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:28:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  understood that it would  be difficult for                                                                    
the Municipality  of Anchorage to  pass a sales tax  to fund                                                                    
the  Port of  Anchorage because  other areas  of Alaska  had                                                                    
goods and services  come across the port. He  wondered how a                                                                    
statewide  sales  tax  would   be  beneficial  to  Southeast                                                                    
Alaska, who did not benefit from the Port of Anchorage.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  said that  a statewide sales  tax was  not under                                                                    
discussion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:28:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  recalled  that   it  had  been  mentioned                                                                    
earlier in the meeting.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:29:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  rebutted that he  had not mentioned  a statewide                                                                    
sales tax.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman thought  that the  record would  speak for                                                                    
itself.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:29:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  asked whether maintenance on  the port had                                                                    
been deferred in  the hope that additional  funding would be                                                                    
appropriated by the legislature.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:31:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
STEVE RIBUFFO, DIRECTOR, PORT OF  ALASKA, said that the port                                                                    
had not  been deferring maintenance.  He said that  the port                                                                    
budgeted  for, and  executed  on an  annual  basis, all  the                                                                    
required  marine  terminal  facility maintenance  needed  to                                                                    
keep it capable of supporting operational loads.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:32:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey highlighted Slide  43, "Municipality of Anchorage                                                                    
Port of Alaska." The slide  showed the expenses and revenues                                                                    
related to Port  of Alaska tariff rate  projections based on                                                                    
Parish Blessing  and Associates  analysis on  borrowing $200                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  discussed Slide 44,  "Journal of  Commerce." The                                                                    
slide showed and article with  the headline, "Users say fuel                                                                    
tariff hikes would impact cargo operations at airport."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:32:48 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair  von Imhof  asked whether  the port  currently paid                                                                    
for its own  daily operations and was there  ever a surplus.                                                                    
She wondered whether other expenses  could be offset by left                                                                    
over funds.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:33:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  replied that the  port did pay for  itself, with                                                                    
money  left over.  He said  that $11  million of  the port's                                                                    
equity had  just been  used for  keeping the  program alive,                                                                    
and  that  the  equity   could  continue  being  used  going                                                                    
forward. He added  that the funds from the  equity would not                                                                    
be enough to fund the entire project.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:33:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson asked  about dividends that the  port paid to                                                                    
the municipality.  He wondered  whether the  dividends would                                                                    
continue, given the ports financial struggles.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:34:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  relayed that  "everything is  on the  table." He                                                                    
shared that  the general government of  the municipality was                                                                    
not looking to get rich off  the port, only to keep the port                                                                    
in operation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:34:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson queried whether  the municipality was looking                                                                    
to   end   the    distribution   of   dividends,   effective                                                                    
immediately.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:34:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  said no.  He related  that a  vote had  not been                                                                    
taken  to   end  the   dividend  process   immediately;  the                                                                    
approximately  $1.5 million  in the  dividend account  would                                                                    
not be  enough get  the project through  the first  phase of                                                                    
construction. He warned that turning  the dividend off would                                                                    
decrease funding  for municipal government by  $1.5 million,                                                                    
which would result in a rise in property taxes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:35:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  likened the  Alaska Permanent  Fund Dividend                                                                    
to the  port dividend  and wondered why  the port  would pay                                                                    
dividends  if  it did  not  have  money to  cover  operating                                                                    
expenses.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:36:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Falsey  clarified   that  what   the  port   paid  the                                                                    
municipality was  the equivalent  of the property  tax share                                                                    
that they would bear if they were in private ownership.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:36:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman thought  that the  dividend structure  was                                                                    
"bizarre."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:37:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof  wondered whether  new  users  for  the                                                                    
cement dock had been identified.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:37:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  said that one  company had made  overtures about                                                                    
building land site  facilitates and could become  a new user                                                                    
of the cement  terminal, but that nothing  meaningful had so                                                                    
far been established.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:38:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey highlighted  Slide 45,  "Anchorage Daily  News."                                                                    
The slide showed a headline,  "Cost doubles to $2 billion to                                                                    
fic port."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey  looked at  Slide  46,  "PCT Cost  Extrapolation                                                                    
across the Program":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Analogous Method                                                                                                           
     ? Apply percentage increase of PCT to all remaining                                                                        
     projects                                                                                                                   
     ? Least precise method due to variations between                                                                           
     project components                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Selective Parametric Method                                                                                                
     ? Adjust major cost driving elements based on PCT unit                                                                     
     costs                                                                                                                      
     ? Provides a reasonable "order of magnitude" estimate                                                                      
     with limited effort and information                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Deterministic Method                                                                                                       
     ? Requires updates to the  preliminary designs based on                                                                    
     lessons learned from PCT                                                                                                   
     ? Most precise method to determine costs                                                                                   
     ? Quantify  the revised design and  estimate using cost                                                                    
     information learned from PCT construction                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     All   estimates  are   highly   sensitive  to   funding                                                                    
     availability    (escalation)    and    marine    mammal                                                                    
     restrictions or requirements                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey   addressed  Slide  47,  "Total   Program  Costs                                                                    
Extrapolated   from  65   percent   PCT  Construction   Cost                                                                    
Estimate."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:40:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey highlighted Slide 48, "Major Cost Drivers":                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     1. Risk Contingency                                                                                                      
     ? $298M  included in the  cost estimate (15  percent of                                                                    
     total program cost)                                                                                                        
     ?  Marine   Mammal  Impacts   construction   means  and                                                                    
     methods                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     2. Escalation                                                                                                            
     ?  $202Mincluded in  the cost  estimate (10  percent of                                                                    
     total program cost)                                                                                                        
     ? 3 percent annual rate used in the cost estimate                                                                          
     ? Directly influenced by funding availability                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     3. Design requirements                                                                                                   
       Seismic design criteria                                                                                                  
     ? 75-year Design Life                                                                                                      
       Tenant Requests                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey expounded  on  the cost  drivers  listed on  the                                                                    
slide.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:41:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Falsey    addressed   Slide   49,    "Anchorage   Port                                                                    
Modernization  Program." He  said that  the cement  terminal                                                                    
was seismically robust and had  a long design life, but that                                                                    
not  many tenant  requirements  had  affected the  projected                                                                    
cost.  He  reiterated that  no  other  part of  the  overall                                                                    
modernization  project was  design ready.  He asserted  that                                                                    
all current design assumptions were subject to change.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:42:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked about how the  proposed tariff would                                                                    
affect the shipping of cement around the state.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:43:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman thought  that Bethel  received most  of its                                                                    
goods directly  from Seattle, bypassing Anchorage.  He spoke                                                                    
of  using bonds  to  build infrastructure  in Anchorage.  He                                                                    
assumed wondered  whether the  municipality could  use bonds                                                                    
for  the  project  that  could   be  paid  back  by  revenue                                                                    
generated from the tariff.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:46:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey replied  that the proposal was not  for a general                                                                    
obligation bond,  but rather to  issue revenue  bonds. Those                                                                    
would be 40-year bonds, financed by tariff revenue.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:46:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman   requested  further  information   on  the                                                                    
revenue bonds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:46:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey agreed to provide that information.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  said that the committee  needed someway of                                                                    
comparing  the cost  of  moving cement  from  the source  to                                                                    
various parts of Alaska.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:48:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof understood  that many  commodities would                                                                    
travel through the  suite of docks. She asked  about using a                                                                    
lower,  and broader,  excise tax;  one that  was implemented                                                                    
when the whole  project, in phases, began  and extended over                                                                    
30 years.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:49:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Falsey said  that the  proposal had  been investigated,                                                                    
but  it   had  been  found   that  there  would   be  cross-                                                                    
subsidization;  somebody   would  be  helping   to  shoulder                                                                    
somebody else's costs.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:50:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof understood that  the municipality did not                                                                    
know what the different phases  would look like, or cost, so                                                                    
an excise  tax to cover  the entire project would  pose some                                                                    
risk.  She  expressed  consternation  with  the  notions  of                                                                    
"winners and  losers" when  it came  to who  benefitted from                                                                    
the port, versus how it was financed.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:51:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey  clarified that if  the tariff was  raised across                                                                    
the board, the  cargo users would be paying for  some of the                                                                    
cement dock,  which they  would not use,  or vice  versa. He                                                                    
thought this could cause an unnecessary market distortion.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:52:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  announced that there were  several minutes                                                                    
left  in  the meeting,  some  of  which  would be  used  for                                                                    
closing statements from the presenters.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:52:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey looked at Slide  50, "MARAD Lawsuit." He lamented                                                                    
that  a resolution  of  the lawsuit  on  the state's  behalf                                                                    
would not pay for the entire project.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:53:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson asked Mr. Falsey to discuss the lawsuit.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:53:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Falsey replied  that the thrust of the  lawsuit was that                                                                    
the  previous  port expansion  project  was  managed by  the                                                                    
federal government  in the form of  Maritime Administration.                                                                    
He said  that what  the Maritime  Administration did  was to                                                                    
take  the cash  that was  on hand  and "set  it on  fire and                                                                    
leave us  with a giant  mess." He  said that the  mess would                                                                    
cost the state hundreds of  millions of dollars. The federal                                                                    
government held that the state was owed no money.                                                                               
10:56:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Falsey   highlighted   Slide  51,   Port   of   Alaska                                                                    
Modernization   Program  (PAMP)."   The  slide   listed  the                                                                    
details,  projected costs,  and  percentage  of the  overall                                                                    
modernization program for the following:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      Port Intermodal Expansion Project                                                                                      
      Proposed Replacement Docks                                                                                             
      Resiliency Premium                                                                                                     
      Department of Defense - Department Strategic Port                                                                      
        Premium                                                                                                                 
      Total PAMP                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed housekeeping.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:59:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:59 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
032119 PoA_Brief_Sen Finance_3_21_19_FINAL_PDF_TO PRINT AND POST.pdf SFIN 3/21/2019 9:00:00 AM
Port of Anchorage
032119 State Funded Port of Anchorage Capital Projects.pdf SFIN 3/21/2019 9:00:00 AM
Port of Anchorage